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  2017 Sept. & Dec. Meeting Minutes
by: FCBash, 1 week ago 10:03 PM (#1)

All,

Gillian has emailed the Reps a copy of the 2017 September and December Meeting minutes, if you feel you should have received a copy and haven't please contact Gillian and provide her your email so she can add you to her mailing list.

A copy of the above minutes are now available online, either using the links below or going to 'Meetings' on the left hand of the website.

2017 September Minutes: http://www.scotti...tember.pdf
2017 December Minutes: http://www.scotti...cember.pdf

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RE: 2017 Sept. & Dec. Meeting Minutes
by: Drover, 1 week ago 11:52 PM (#2)

Gillian ur in box is full and can't send u a message
 
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RE: 2017 Sept. & Dec. Meeting Minutes
by: scottishslack, 1 week ago 07:36 PM (#3)

Glancing at Dec's minutes it would indicate that if a match is 2-2 after 1 hour then it will be cut by two frames?

Seems harsh on the slower guys out there.
 
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RE: 2017 Sept. & Dec. Meeting Minutes
by: Cyclone, 1 week ago 03:18 AM (#4)

scottishslack wrote:
Glancing at Dec's minutes it would indicate that if a match is 2-2 after 1 hour then it will be cut by two frames?

Seems harsh on the slower guys out there.


Very harsh, voting went 8-8 against status quo with the chairman having the casting vote
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RE: 2017 Sept. & Dec. Meeting Minutes
by: FlyingScotsman, 1 week ago 10:37 AM (#5)

Well I think players have to understand that there are players out there taking over 4 hours for match's, not once or a couple of times but nearly every time they play, why because that is the way they play?

Some will come back on and say that's unfair on the opponent but the SPA have to do something, otherwise the match's go on to long and we do not finish the tournament.

Also these players will again be timed , why because their opponents ask for it straight away.
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RE: 2017 Sept. & Dec. Meeting Minutes
by: Cyclone, 1 week ago 02:19 PM (#6)

I know what your saying Ross, but if it's 2-2 and the 5th frame is a tight one, not by anyone fault, then the match gets cut to first to 5. That makes a big difference to the state of the match after the 5th frame.

Even better, you go 2-0 up and shut up shop until the hour passes.
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RE: 2017 Sept. & Dec. Meeting Minutes
by: scottishslack, 1 week ago 06:24 PM (#7)

There's nothing I hate more Ross than intentionally slow players and we should be doing all we can to minimise their impact on our events.

However, as an extremely fast player myself, it only takes one "Sandy Tong" to slow a match down and it may be unfair on the faster guy.

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RE: 2017 Sept. & Dec. Meeting Minutes
by: knowledge, 1 week ago 07:21 PM (#8)

FlyingScotsman wrote:
Well I think players have to understand that there are players out there taking over 4 hours for match's, not once or a couple of times but nearly every time they play, why because that is the way they play?

Some will come back on and say that's unfair on the opponent but the SPA have to do something, otherwise the match's go on to long and we do not finish the tournament.

Also these players will again be timed , why because their opponents ask for it straight away.


I've said this before at a meeting but there was a guy played in Glasgow, notoriously slow. Always held events up and his half of the draw was always behind. In one club they just stopped accepting his entries for tournaments.

Now that took balls but it eradicated the problem without unfairly punishing non-offenders.
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RE: 2017 Sept. & Dec. Meeting Minutes
by: The Fox, 1 week ago 12:43 AM (#9)

knowledge wrote:
FlyingScotsman wrote:
Well I think players have to understand that there are players out there taking over 4 hours for match's, not once or a couple of times but nearly every time they play, why because that is the way they play?

Some will come back on and say that's unfair on the opponent but the SPA have to do something, otherwise the match's go on to long and we do not finish the tournament.

Also these players will again be timed , why because their opponents ask for it straight away.


I've said this before at a meeting but there was a guy played in Glasgow, notoriously slow. Always held events up and his half of the draw was always behind. In one club they just stopped accepting his entries for tournaments.

Now that took balls but it eradicated the problem without unfairly punishing non-offenders.


Let's use the minute rule then .. everyone will have equal time
 
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RE: 2017 Sept. & Dec. Meeting Minutes
by: FlyingScotsman, 1 week ago 10:51 AM (#10)

Dennis , you know very well that players can take one minute per shot and do nothing, so that match goes on and on, the SPA had to do something and unless they stop taking entries from these players as John has pointed out, what happened to one guy in Glasgow, we will never finish tournaments.

A decision has been taken and again if players do not like that, then they have a choice to enter the events or not.
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RE: 2017 Sept. & Dec. Meeting Minutes
by: Fruits, 1 week ago 05:27 PM (#11)

FlyingScotsman wrote:

A decision has been taken and again if players do not like that, then they have a choice to enter the events or not.


Players have a choice not to enter? That's great Ross, so letting them know that the rules are changing after you've taken their entry fees for the IMs doesn't exactly align with that does it?
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RE: 2017 Sept. & Dec. Meeting Minutes
by: FlyingScotsman, 1 week ago 09:22 PM (#12)

On your bike son, i was not there when this decision was taken, i did not know even that it was going to be raised.

So don't come on to me here and say its to late, a load of crap.

Reps make decisions and a lot I don't agree with but I have always gone with what the majority want and that is what i am saying here, so don't come on with its to late etc, there are lots of other SPA events we do each year other than IMs.
 
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RE: 2017 Sept. & Dec. Meeting Minutes
by: Fruits, 1 week ago 10:14 PM (#13)

I'm not blaming you for the decision Ross, I'm merely stating a fact. Only reason I'm addressing you is because you are defending the decision.

I'm pointing out to you that a fairly large change to the IM competition has been agreed, which nobody was aware of when we are trying to collect entries for the Series. Why i am using the IM as an example is because With this new rule potentially you could have someone travelling halfway across the country to an IM to play a 1st to 5. It's hardly encouraging is it?

So, what I am saying is not 'a load of crap' it's 100% fact!
 
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RE: 2017 Sept. & Dec. Meeting Minutes
by: secretary, 1 week ago 10:52 PM (#14)

One player has to have amassed 3 frames in first hour or the
match will be reduced by 2 frames. Proposal carried. 10 votes to 9.

This was a casting vote

Note: the following voted against - i,e, for status quo
and they are the persons running the events


David Duncan
Suzy Smith
Yvonne Ewing
Michael Bastow
Gillian Hayes
John Reid

Shows what reps are listening to at meetngs
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RE: 2017 Sept. & Dec. Meeting Minutes
by: weeksy, 6 days ago 06:09 PM (#15)

Cut there shot time to 30 seconds rather than cut there frames
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RE: 2017 Sept. & Dec. Meeting Minutes
by: alligator, 6 days ago 06:33 PM (#16)

secretary wrote:
One player has to have amassed 3 frames in first hour or the
match will be reduced by 2 frames. Proposal carried. 10 votes to 9.

This was a casting vote

Note: the following voted against - i,e, for status quo
and they are the persons running the events


David Duncan
Suzy Smith
Yvonne Ewing
Michael Bastow
Gillian Hayes
John Reid

Shows what reps are listening to at meetngs
. That's an outrageous post David
 
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RE: 2017 Sept. & Dec. Meeting Minutes
by: alligator, 6 days ago 06:38 PM (#17)

Fruits wrote:
FlyingScotsman wrote:

A decision has been taken and again if players do not like that, then they have a choice to enter the events or not.


Players have a choice not to enter? That's great Ross, so letting them know that the rules are changing after you've taken their entry fees for the IMs doesn't exactly align with that does it?
. Fruits this was always the rule mate but someone changed it without going through the proper procedure and the body of the hall have changed it back to what was always in the constitution.
 
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RE: 2017 Sept. & Dec. Meeting Minutes
by: smarties, 5 days ago 02:26 PM (#18)

secretary wrote:
One player has to have amassed 3 frames in first hour or the
match will be reduced by 2 frames. Proposal carried. 10 votes to 9.

This was a casting vote

Note: the following voted against - i,e, for status quo
and they are the persons running the events


David Duncan
Suzy Smith
Yvonne Ewing
Michael Bastow
Gillian Hayes
John Reid

Shows what reps are listening to at meetngs



Proposal brought to the September meeting by the secretary David Duncan;

6.2.4 Time: One player has to have amassed 3 frames in first hour or the
match will be reduced by 2 frames,

Then he voted against proposal...Eh!
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RE: 2017 Sept. & Dec. Meeting Minutes
by: secretary, 5 days ago 06:13 PM (#19)

smarties wrote:
secretary wrote:
One player has to have amassed 3 frames in first hour or the
match will be reduced by 2 frames. Proposal carried. 10 votes to 9.

This was a casting vote

Note: the following voted against - i,e, for status quo
and they are the persons running the events


David Duncan
Suzy Smith
Yvonne Ewing
Michael Bastow
Gillian Hayes
John Reid

Shows what reps are listening to at meetngs



Proposal brought to the September meeting by the secretary David Duncan;

6.2.4 Time: One player has to have amassed 3 frames in first hour or the
match will be reduced by 2 frames,

Then he voted against proposal...Eh!


OK lets get things right here Malky -The above was NOT my proposal but YOURS.

I voted against it in September and I voted against it in December.

Just setting the record correct


I made a proposal and you made the above one and had a vote to see which went against the status quo.

My Proposal
4 frames in 60 minutes, 8 frames in 120, 12 in 180. 2 frame reduction frame reduction -2 for each

which was an extension of the status quo: the completion 4th frame has to be concluded within 60 minutes or a reduction of 2 frames.

My reasoning was: when two players were reduced by 2 frames they played even slower in the next 60 minutes.
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RE: 2017 Sept. & Dec. Meeting Minutes
by: smarties, 5 days ago 06:31 PM (#20)

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